An inspiring podcast on everything you need to know about color!
S6E06 Decolonization of Color with Mohamad Baitie
In this very frank and open conversation Mohamad Baitie talks about how color reflects cultural heritage, the decolonization of design, and the desire to be seen. This podcast is a look into Middle Eastern aesthetics challenging Western norms and reclaiming visual identity.
With a master’s Degree in interior architecture, Mohamad Baitie has an expansive knowledge of color, color forecasting, color design and architectural coatings. Mohamad was born in Lebanon and grew up in Accra, Ghana, constantly moving with the family and being exposed to different cultures. His first encounter with color came through a dual interaction, Smarties and Lego. He was constantly amazed by how color shapes objects and defines the way we interact with them. Architecture was his obvious choice, where color, light and shadow are intertwined.
Today, with over 22 years of experience in marketing and communication in the paint industry, working for one of the top multinational paint brands as Business Development Director, GLC Paints. He has led the brand identity transformation of GLC Paints and is thoroughly involved in product research and development within the organization. He also took the role of professor of Color at the American University of Cairo, teaching color theory, color practice and color psychology. As part of the CMG organization, through GLC Paints, he attends the yearly global summit on color forecasting and does his own color talks and color workshops within the MENA region.
S6E03 Color Down Under with Bree Banfield
Australian Bree Banfield shares with us her passion for color surprises in interiors, how color comes intuitively to her and how the light down under changes the color game completely. Listen to our conversation and receive valuable insights to the color selection process for home interiors.
With an extensive career spanning 30 years, Bree Banfield is an Interior Designer renowned for her expertise in trend forecasting and styling. A maestro in color, Bree approaches each project with a commitment to creating aesthetically appealing and emotionally rich spaces. Her projects, marked by surprises in color, pattern play, and innovative use of scale, reflect a passion for gently pushing boundaries and intuitively understanding her clients' brief. Beyond her role as an Interior Designer, she stands as a visionary trend forecaster, shaping the contemporary landscape of Australian interiors with her forward-thinking aesthetic.
S6E02 Color Camouflage with Melania Chavarría Nuño
In this episode Melania shares her story about how she went from being too much to finding her own voice, how color became the main driver in her work and how she wants to bridge the gap between the intrinsic variety of Mexican culture and the world of the arts. Learn about how she expresses these elements through her own body and person.
Fashion and Textile Designer with a degree from Centro de Diseño, Cine y Televisión (CDMX) and the Royal Academy of Fine Arts (Antwerp, Belgium).
Born and raised in Mexico City, she works on a diverse range of projects within the creative industries, spanning fashion, arts, design, styling, journalism, and creative direction.
With nearly 10 years of experience, she has developed numerous dynamic design projects aimed at fostering and promoting a stronger fashion identity for Mexican culture from a contemporary and international perspective.
In 2015, Melania launched her design project, CDMX11000, inspired by the surreal architectural language of Mexico City. This project has evolved through social media platforms, using photography to create a visual language where local arts, design, traditions, and culture are seamlessly integrated with fashion. Through the interplay of colors, textures, shapes, and prints, the project highlights specific theories, aesthetics, and concepts.
Her continuous collaboration with other creatives led her to share their stories and projects through DNA Magazine, an innovative fashion media outlet. There, she writes to spotlight emerging talents and guide the next generation of creative professionals.
S6E01 Chasing Reality with Michell Lott
Which way better to start the new season than with Brazilian creative Michell Lott. In this episode, Michell shares insights on how he uses color to stay in touch with his emotions to navigate life more easily, how warm colors increase happiness for 2025 and how AI allows him to work quicker yet without taking over his creativity.
Based in São Paulo, the multidisciplinary creator has made a name for himself by envisioning and delivering majestic, immersive, colorful, and playful productions that capture the spirit of the times in striking visuals – whether for campaigns and editorials, installations in collaboration with brands from various sectors, or impactful sponsored content shared on Instagram. A journalist by training, he fell in love with the visual universe while working as a journalist at Casa Vogue. Since pursuing a solo career, he has worked as a set designer, creative director, design curator, multidisciplinary creator, and, for the past four years, as a color consultant and trend researcher in collaboration with Suvinil. His main objective is to make life prettier creating his own reality.
Totally Obsessed with Trendstefan
There is a reason why I picked this title and you hear that when you listen to the conversation. Stefan is a true trend hunter who never stops searching for the new as his curiosity brings him to over 30 fairs a year. In this interview we talk about what is trending right now, what is coming and we wonder about what the future may bring when it comes to color and its application.
Stefan ”Trendstefan” Nilsson is one of Sweden’s and Scandinavia’s most influential trend experts. Constantly on foot, he visits fairs and world cities to scout the latest in design, lifestyle, sustainability, retail and hospitality. These insights are shared in various magazines and at seminars. Trendstefan also runs the design arena Designgalleriet, and is most visible on social media under @trendstefan. Swedish magazine Rum have listed Trendstefan as one of the most influential people in architecture and design in Sweden.
Breaking the Average with Lidi Bus
It is always super fun to talk to fellow Dutchies. Lidi Bus talked about her journey as an artist, how she came about her inflatable design and their colorful combination but also about vulnerability and her quest to break free from average.
Born Dutch, Lidi designs and fabricates unique inflatable props and set pieces, definitely not modern art to be stared at in silence. Her creations are striking expressions of applied art aimed at fashion, interior design, product presentations, photo shoots and events. Inflatable items with specific dimensions and colors can be created on request. Break free from average is her motto and she certainly does.
Lidi Bus inflatables serve as an extension for storytellers to help them create eye-catching presentations. They resonate with creators who see value in an exceptional approach, and seek to stand out from the crowd. Exclusive, bold and unique. Lidi embraces extraordinary projects, far removed from the mundane, making a statement: average is simply not enough.
The very essence of her work is based on a mix of observation, gathering useful and interesting working materials as well as ongoing research into the technical details, including the inflation system and intricate details of finishing. It is from this playful approach that the rough ideas emerge and are then carefully filtered: from broad to narrow, making room for the true concept and final result.
Design Experience with Xiaojing Huang
Xiaojing is the first person on the podcast to talk with an Asian perspective on color, design experience and CMF as she talks about the many differences between eastern and western consumer trends, preferences and color perceptions. As one of the most well-known CMF designers in China, Xiaojing will give her view on what is happening in the field and not just in China.
Xiaojing Huang is a renowned design strategist and trend expert, strategy director and partner of YANG DESIGN, chief editor of China Design Trends Report.
Winner of Red Dot Design Award, IDEA and Design For Asia Silver Award, Influential China Young by Linkedin. Chief editor of China Design Trends Report, which is by far the authoritative annual trend report for the Chinese market since 2013. The report has successfully forecasted well-selling Chinese design trends including gradient, purple, copper green and iridescence. She is curator of CMF TREND LAB, and design column writer of magazines including md. Invited speaker of many design events including TEDx, Color Marketing Group, NCS color forecast and Semiofest. Xiaojing studied in Guangzhou and Berlin from experience design expert.
As strategic director of YANG DESIGN, the forward-looking design consultancy in China, she has been leading the strategic team to build the CMF Lab and UX Lab , defining design strategy to realize business value for companies in different development stages. Her clients are leading brands including Boeing, BMW, GM, Nissan, Hyundai, Didi, Samsung, Microsoft, Huawei, BOSE, Haier, vivo, Schneider Electric, Unilever, Vanke, DuPont and 3M.
Color Statements with Claudia Cándano
What is happening in the world of fashion, what colors prevail and where does Mexican fashion stand in all of this? Claudia Cándano talks about her passion for fashion and how she incorporates color at ELLE while she is key on taking fashion to a broader audience.
With more than 14 years of experience in the world of fashion and lifestyle journalism, Claudia Cándano began her career at InStyle Mexico as Fashion Editor, where she headed one of the most successful and proactive fashion teams in the Mexican publishing industry. This experience and the consolidation of her own iconoclastic style led her to the direction of the fashion area of ELLE Mexico, and later, as Editor in Chief of ELLE Mexico, as well as ELLE Decoration and ELLE Man where she has given an important turn to the communication of the media. She has built a team recognized as one of the best in the Mexican publishing industry. Claudia has also excelled as a stylist for various celebrities and has given creative advice to designers for the creation of their collections. She studied Graphic Design at the Universidad Iberoamericana in Mexico City and her unmistakable signature has been continuously perfected with renowned courses, such as Fashion Studies at Parsons The New School for Design, in New York. Art Direction for Fashion and Fashion Journalism, at The University of the Arts, London Central Saint Martins, in England.
Claudia led for 4 years the efforts of the successful project Mexico Diseña by ELLE, as project director and jury leader of the TV series with the same name. From her efforts in different platforms, she created Hablemos de moda #ELLEPodcast, the first fashion podcast in Mexico.
Thanks to her trajectory, she continues as Editor in Chief of ELLE, but also serves as Editorial Director of Grupo Expansión's soft news brands, being in charge of media such as Quién, ELLE, ELLE Decoration, ELLE Man, Aire and Life & Style. She is also in charge of the group's Branded Content area.
Empowerment through Color with Lisa Maria Pippus
How can you empower yourself with color and bring out the best of yourself? Lisa Maria Pippus explains how she helps her clients in selecting the right color palette to literally shine and portrait what they want to stand for. In this podcast episode you will learn about terms like color DNA, archetypes and personal branding.
Lisa Maria Pippus, born Canadian, living in Berlin, studied fashion in Toronto and Milan, empowers design and style professionals to speed-read their clients’ aesthetic preferences through the "Aesthetic Compass Inventory". Understanding the four aesthetic direction and their sub-types allows them to add to their bottom line. By quickly understanding the language, color, line and shape choices that make their client's hearts sing. The Aesthetic preferences Compass also empower leaders to 'be fabulously on-brand'. This means to express their truth in a powerfully authentic way. To align their personality strengths to their wardrobe so they are seen, heard and valued.
Shining your Light with Judith van Vliet
This is quite the unusual podcast for me.. as for the first time I am being interviewed myself by Keith Recker who beseeched, almost begged me to let the TCA fans get to know me better by turning the tables and allowing myself to be the interviewee. This fun conversation gives some insights into the mysterious world of color forecasting and its future, how you may identify color for clients and their brand but most importantly, what color can do for you on a personal level once you learn how to work with it. Color is life, color is emotion and above all, it is power.
Judith was born in 1981 in the countryside of The Netherlands. She moved to the urban environment of The Hague for her studies at the age of 17. At 28, when she moved to Milan, she fulfilled a lifelong dream of living in Italy. She still lives there, a participant in the vibrant unfolding of color and design-thinking in one of the world’s creativity capitols.
Her initial dive into color came in her first job as Product Planning Specialist at Kawasaki Motors, where she was the only European and the only woman on Kawasaki’s Japan-based design team. Later, she served as Senior Color Designer at Avient ColorWorks, which designs innovative and increasingly sustainable polymer-based colorants to the manufacturing sector and was Creative Director of ColorForward, a global color forecasting guide. These positions allowed her to travel the world to present social and consumer color intelligence to cross-industry professionals, designers and marketers.
Today she is captain of her own ship as founder and color intelligence provider at The Color Authority. She’s also vice president of membership of the Color Marketing Group, where she’s been very active for over fifteen years in positions including president and member of the executive committee.
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High on Color with Bethan Laura Wood
Bethan talks about her many inspirations deriving from spending time in different countries while travelling. She explains how she lets color speak to her designs and patterns while explaining the design processes of her latest creations. Her love for Mexico strongly comes forward in the conversation and how the Mexican color palette has influenced her work. Bethan has always had an interest in the relation between people and the object and how she can reinforce that relation through time, and of course, color.
Bethan Laura Wood has run a multidisciplinary studio since 2009 characterised by materials investigation, artisan collaboration and a passion for colour and detail. Residencies and location-based projects have become an important factor in her design process, often working in response to her location, in collaboration with local manufacturers, or reflecting back into her work the visual and material culture particular to that area. Bethan is fascinated by the connections we make with the everyday objects that surround us and, as a collector herself, likes to explore what drives people to hold onto one particular object while discarding another. Bethan explores these relationships and questions how they might become cultural conduits. She is interested in critical approaches to achieving sustainability within mass consumption and the production-driven context of the design industry.
Color Provocations with Keith Recker
Keith Recker is a color poet and you will hear that immediately when listening to this conversation, even if it's not all roses we talk about. Keith does not refrain from talking about how color continues to create political and social divides and often triggers consumers into buying promises not kept by brands. The mission of his latest book Deep Color is to indeed reveal the misperceptions on color and to disclose the truth about each color in the spectrum. Not all that is white is clean, simple and pure..
Keith Recker brings 35 years of adventuresome, insightful, multicultural experience in marketing, merchandising, trend and color forecasting, and content development to his role as Editor in Chief and Co-Owner of TABLE Magazine. With strong roots in food and drink, TABLE also explores travel, interior design, fashion and jewelry, and other facets of modern living, in both print and digital formats.
Recker is the founder and editor of HAND/EYE Magazine, a print and online publication whose 10 issues cultivated a global following. The magazine profiles forward-looking creators, faraway cultures, ancient craft traditions, and cutting-edge design. HAND/EYE saw humankind’s creative future as handmade, which demands attention the struggle of artisans to earn decent livelihoods through preservation of ancient traditions, innovation of new ones, exploration of new markets, and educating the consuming public about the cultural and economic importance of their work. HAND/EYE is on a pause right now, but ripe for rebirth.
Recker is also a trend and color forecaster whose almost 20-year client list includes global influencers Pantone, WGSN, Stylus, Color Association of the United States (CAUS), and more. For 16 years, Recker has been creative director of Pantone’s annual home publication, PANTONE View Home. For eight years he was on WGSN’s global trend and color team. He serves on the CAUS home forecasting committee.
The revised second edition of his book, True Colors: World Masters of Natural Dyes and Pigments (Thrums Books) was released in September 2020, with chapters already excerpted in London-based Selvedge Magazine, NY Textile Month Journal, and reviewed in many more, including Metropolis. He is co-author of PANTONE: The Twentieth Century in Color (Chronicle, 2012), published in eight languages. His new book, Deep Color: The Shades That Shape Our Souls, debuts in September 2022. His writing on color and culture has been published by the Studio Museum of Harlem (catalog essay about Stephen Burks), Museum of Art and Design (catalog essay about African craft and its messages about the future), Brooklyn Rail (comparing the work of potter Alex Matisse with the performance work of Marina Abramovic), The Santa Fe New Mexican, and more.
He has also worked in the non-profit world as a director of consumer marketing at CARE International and executive director at Aid to Artisans (as well as a board member and volunteer for 22 years). Through his involvement with Aid to Artisans, he has worked side by side with artisans from 50 countries. He has served on the boards of Art in General, Chez Bushwick, as founding chair of The Quiet in the Land (a project which brought leading contemporary artists into communities in the developing world) , and the International Folk Art Market, where he was also pro bono creative director and head of the Marketing Committee from 1996-2020.
Color Kindredness with Patti Carpenter
Patti Carpenter will talk color trends as she travels the world to places that inspire her. Actually, it is not the places that inspire her, it's the indigenous and how they work color in their artisan products from which we all can learn so much. Patti talks about what really keeps her going, her work in artisan development in countries around the world and her desire to bring more diversity to the world of design. From high Fashion to doing what truly matters to her, helping and supporting other creatives globally and bringing back the value of true artisan development. That is Patti.
Patti is Principal of carpenter + company and an award- winning Designer in globally sourced home décor, accessories, fragrance and gifts, with experience in product design and development, merchandising and color + trend forecasting. As a Micro-Enterprise specialist with U.S. presidential recognition for domestic and international expertise in artisan development, small producer and entrepreneurial training and economic development she has designed and sourced Private Label collections for Bloomingdales, Neiman Marcus, Crate & Barrel, The Phillips Collection, ABC Carpet and Home, Donna Karan Urban Zen and Ralph Lauren. She has worked in 57 countries. Patti is an expert in Color + Trend research and forecasting and consults with Pantone. She is the Global Trend Ambassador for Maison & Objet, Paris. She is an active board member of SERRV International-one of the founding organizations of the World Fair Trade Organization (WFTO), BADG (Black Artists and Designer Guild), The High School of Fashion Industries and The Bienenstock Furniture Library, as well as the co-founder of the Kaleidoscope Project. Patti is also the recipient of the Gift For Life Industry Achievement Award for 2021 and the Withit Industry Leadership Award for 2021 for the Kaleidoscope Project.
The Future of Color Forecasting with Leslie Harrington
When color-minded come together you have great conversations, proof again is my episode with Leslie Harrington. Leslie talks color strategy like very few and explains the major pitfalls in selecting color. She believes the future of color forecasting lays in data to validate intuitively made color choices. How will AI influence the jobs of color professionals and how can the two sit side by side? Listen to this intriguing color talk now!
Leslie Harrington Ph.D is the Co-founder of HueData, a color intelligence company, and the Executive Director of The Color Association of the United States, a color trend agency since 1915 specialising in Fashion and Interiors/Environments. She currently is on the Executive Committee of AIC, a professional member of ISCC, is a professional member of ASID - American Society of Interior Designers. Leslie is the current President of AIC - International Color Association. Leslie has worked in the area of color strategy and color marketing over a 25+ year for companies such as Benjamin Moore and has been published and quotes in numerous publications such as The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune, The New Yorker, Oprah Magazine and aired on Dr Oz Show, CBS’s Live it Up with Ali & Jack, ABC's Good Morning America and many more.
The Bottom Line of Color with Anat Lechner
In this episode you may learn how to rationalise your color choices through data and statistics, a requirement ever more important when working with large businesses. Anat Lechner will explain how she ended up in the world of color and how her business perspective on color helps the creative industry today. Anat believes we need to first understand color before we can apply it, let alone use it to drive business decisions. Her company Huedata gives you the necessary background information to make well-informed color choices based on true market data.
Anat Lechner, PhD, is a Professor of Business Management at the Stern School of Business, New York University where she focuses on disruptive leadership, innovation, and strategic change. She’s also the founder of Huedata Inc., a color intelligence company. A former Research Fellow at McKinsey & Co. Dr. Lechner has advised to global Fortune 100 firms in the Financial Services, Pharmaceuticals, Chemicals, Energy, Food, High Tech, Design and Retail industries. She’s had numerous appearances on the NYT, WSJ, BBC, ABC, Forbes and other premier global media outlets Anat holds an MBA and a PhD in Organization Management from Rutgers University, NJ.
Global Color Visions with Sara Forsmark
In this candid conversation I will talk with Sara Forsmark about the great challenges of creating a global color vision for the sports performance brand Adidas. How does she incorporate topics such as sustainability and inclusivity in her colourful work? Print and pattern is key in the world of apparel and footwear, how are they materialised in color visions? Sara is a fervent color advocate but even more so when it comes to debunking color perceptions and concepts, let's listen which ones nerve her the most.
Sara Forsmark is a creative who navigates and transforms the complex world of color into future forward color concepts and visions.
For Sara, color is beauty and currency; for life, humanity, design, brands and business. With color at the core, her ambition is to be a strong voice for color by creating awareness of all its qualities; as a creator of aesthetic experiences, to shaping meaningful connections between brand, culture and its audiences, and beyond.
With a big picture view, she contextualises worldly movements and growing disruptive shifts into brand relevant color insights and content; and fuses creativity with science; to craft, drive and lead way for new authentic and purposeful color expressions and stories; that speaks brand, debunks aesthetic norms and provokes emotion towards a better and different tomorrow.
Her work experiences span across a diverse range of categories and brands, a journey that started at agencies creating CMF designs for clients as LG, Hewlett-Packard and Bowers & Wilkins, before moving into the world of sports, shaping and steering brand global creative visions for color at adidas. A color design role she currently holds in the adidas Global Creative Direction team.
Unlocking Color Talent with Marianne Shillingford
If you are not yet a color enthusiast, you will once listening to this joyful episode with ambassador of color, Marianne Shillingford. Marianne will reveal what role color trends play in decoration and how you can apply color to enhance wellness in people's lives. As Founder of the Colour Design Awards she is now planning for the next event in June this year. Marianne furthermore explains how her search for emerging design talent comes about and what she believes is true color innovation.
Marianne Shillingford has over 30 years of experience in the interiors industry as a decorating and colour expert. As Creative Director of Dulux at Akzonobel she works closely with many creative disciplines from designers, architects and professional decorators to global colour experts and of course the Dulux Dog. She is a passionate expert and skilled communicator with experience in TV, radio and journalism. Marianne is also the founder of the Colour in Design Awards, which recognises and rewards outstanding use of colour in design by emerging creative talent.
Whirlwinds of Color with David Shah
Get yourself a cup of tea and a comfortable seat as you are about to listen to an exciting whirlwind of information on trends, fashion, textiles and of course color! David and I will talk about which trends were accelerated by the pandemic and which color directions will be key for the upcoming years. In this fast conversation we will talk about the future of fashion, health and merchandising in a world where supplies are short and consumers want comfort. David will also touch upon how the meta verse is influencing society and how it will bring color to a next level.
Publisher at Metropolitan Publishing BV (Textile View, Viewpoint Colour, PantoneView Colour Planner, Pantone Colour InstituteTrendhouse Kids, Trendhouse Youth Lifestyle and Trendhouse Casual/Athleisure). He is and has been a consultant working on design and marketing developments with many leading apparel and industrial companies, ranging from fashion to automotive. He is renowned for his speeches around the world on social and design trends. David has been visiting professor at the Royal College of Arts, London examining MA students in textiles as well as Associate Professor at ARTez, Arnhem the Netherlands, for the course on branding and marketing and Associate Professor at Renmin University, Beijing. He is also a peer member for the CBI Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the Netherlands and is often called as an expert witness in legal matters.
Let Color Surprise you with Mark Woodman
As a great storyteller, Mark takes us all on a journey of color aha moments, color misperceptions and some color stories that marked his career. We will talk about getting the color right for a client as he reveals some interesting tactics. As a writer, he is very much involved in naming and describing color, an intriguing process that is more demanding as it may seem at first yet very fun!
Mark Woodman, a passionate designer, trend-spotter, educator, writer and speaker, designs interiors, consults on diverse product lines, and contributes to the pages and airwaves of media, and the stages of international exhibitions.
Mark consults for individuals and international corporations. including Corian® Design, Mid-Mark, Canadian Tire’s Premier Paint Collection, Blackfin Realty, and more. Mark Woodman’s aesthetic understanding as an interior designer of “real-life” balances his approach to design, color, and product specification. He is former president of Color Marketing Group, serves on various color panels, and is an accredited CEU educator.
A spirited speaker, Mark frequently lectures on color and design and his unique perspective allows him to weave narratives and solutions of design and color from influences as diverse as cuisine and fashion, to home décor.
Dreaming in Pink with Pavo Wong
Her sensitive character clearly comes forward in our conversation as Pavo explains how she picks up sensitivities in her direct environment, how she observes her own behaviour and feelings to understand which design direction to take. She will reveal how she picks the colors for her designs and how texture and fabric come into play. What advise does she have for young fashion designers, how does Pavo translate her fantasy-like dreams into a wearable collection, what is it like to work with your family day in and out and what is next for the Mexican world of fashion?
Pavo and Pamela Wong are the bright entrepreneurs behind the Mexican ready-to-wear fashion brand PINK MAGNOLIA.
It was Pavo, the creative dreamer, who began sewing custom designs during college (CENTRO) and selling them at the first Pink Magnolia small store in Polanco, Mexico City. At only 21 years old, Pavo quickly found herself with a growing reputation and a demand for her eye catching clothing and silhouettes. Not long after, she convinced her sister Pamela to step into a business advisory role, cementing the perfect balance and family legacy.
From there, a succession of opportunities came in the form of a Mercedes Benz Fashion Week runway invitation (one of many), and highly successful collaborations with Disney (like Lanvin, Pink Magnolia was tapped to design a wardrobe in honor of Minnie Mouse’s birthday), and Barbie; propelling the Pink Magnolia brand to global status.
With recent features in WWD, Vogue Mexico & Latin America, Marie Claire Hong Kong, and a spot amongst Forbes Magazine’s “Under 30 Rising Stars,” Pink Magnolia is forging a path for the woman who shines inside and out.
“Excellent series about color. It’s a complex topic and Judith approaches it from a variety of angles with her guests. Always entertaining and insightful. I look forward to listening to each episode and learning something new about color and the visionaries in the color world.”
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